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Old 12-11-2010, 09:34 PM   #3084
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Originally Posted by huskerdooz View Post
I usually don't have much to say as evidenced by my low post count compared to the # of years I've been a member. I do like to read and laugh at all the Internet pissing matches that occur; however I have to add my 2 cents and with the state of the economy it will probably be the only I can spare.
I find your insistance that Greinke's 2009 was the outlier and his 2010 was more the norm, as you remarked on more than one occasion. However you continue to insist that Snider's 2010 was just a little detour to greatness. You're just as much a blind homer as Royals fans. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I don't recall Greinke having too much difficulty with the almighty AL East, especially in 09.
Greinke 2007 (122 IP): 2.5 WAR
Greinke 2008 (202.1 IP): 4.9 WAR
Greinke 2009 (229.1): 9.4 WAR
Greinke 2010 (220 IP): 5.2 WAR

There is no reason to believe that the 2009 season is much more than an outlier, and therefore no reason to value him much more than a 5 WAR pitcher, especially when he's moving to a difficult division.

And there are countless examples of pitching numbers going up as pitchers have moved into the AL East (or going down, in a move the other way, as Halladay showed in his year in the NL). It's inarguable that facing three of the top offenses in baseball in half of your starts (NYY, BOS, TAM) will have a detrimental effect on a pitcher's numbers.
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