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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
In the immortal words of Justice Potter Stewart - "I know it when I see it..."
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Bullshit, there is no set objective standard that suggests that Travis Snider will never become an elite hitter in the major leagues. He's obviously not going to become the next Manny Ramirez, but that doesn't mean he won't carry some significant value in this league for the next decade.
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You want to just ignore them because he's 22, but those are not numbers you ignore when they're that extreme.
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Nobody is ignoring anything. I'm fully aware of what Snider's strengths and weaknesses. In order to write off this young a player, though, you are just reading far too much into them.
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But I tell you what - here's your argument: Jay Bruce.
Their minor league numbers are stunningly similar. And I figure Jay Bruce will be one of the next true superstars. But what Bruce has done (and in similar circumstances to Snider, with injuries, etc...) is improve incrimentally at all those peripheral stats at the major league level and he's done it every season.
It wasn't until Snider got to the major league level and swung at everything they threw up there that I lost faith in him. Bruce didn't do that.
Like it or not - historically, that means a hell of a lot.
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Hold on, you think Bruce is going to be a star despite their identical minor league numbers on the basis of 600 AB in two injury filled, Cito Gaston-altered seasons? That small a sample size is really affecting your opinion that much?
Jay Bruce MILB: .308/.366/.551, 127 BB, 342 K, 1359 AB
Travis Snider's MILB: .302/.376/.530, 170 BB, 401 K, 1412 AB
Jay Bruce MLB: .257/.327/.474, 129 BB, 321 K, 1267 AB
Travis Snider MLB: .255/.318/.446, 184 BB, 467 K, 612 AB
Bruce didn't take any of these steps forward until last year (his age 23 year), but you're prepared to write off Snider after his age 22 year?
This isn't making sense.