Originally Posted by cdcox
But it is getting balled up with the tea party message, which isn't pure libertarianism.
The original Tea Party was formed by the libertarians. It started during Ron Paul's primary campaign. Later more joined, even some Democrats, as a reaction to Obama's policies.
That this is getting balled up with the TP movement is being caused by people opposed to it and who want to point fingers. There are violent types on both sides of the aisle. Like Ayers on the left.
And to suggest the meanings of words and labels don't change is silly. Do you honestly think that 1850's Republican party is essentially the same at it's core as the 2000 version?
I did say they didn't change....I said they were not fluid. They have meanings and some have several meanings. That's why dictionaries list more than one entry. One of the major reasons words change, is because their original meaning was never understood. Eventually dictionaries keep up by adding another entry. All that means is that definition applies for that context. That has not occurred in this context. Libertarian has a set of beliefs and most don't bother to look them up or understand them. In fact sometimes it's done intentionally which Orwell wrote about under his writings on abuse of language. Which brings us back to why meanings change—because they were not originally understood. You don't understand libertarianism nor just JohnnyV.
Bill Belichick learned to film signals of opponents from the former Chiefs, and Charger's coach Schottenheimer. Others like Edwards, Johnson and Cowher did too. They learned from the CHEATS and CHEATERS who still couldn't win.