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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
I'm not claiming that the failure of the team is Haley's responsibility alone, or even a plurality of it. I'm arguing a couple of things:
1) He was known (not coveted, known) for his sideline antics
2) He was relatively inexperienced and his resume was thin
3) A few former players gushing about someone doesn't really mean all that much. If anyone should know this, it's a Chiefs fan. Don't you remember the Herm and DV years?
4) If a guy can't coexist with other offensive play callers and can't co-manage the duties of both HC and OC if he needs all the responsibility, how can you claim that it was a good hire?
Again, this is all a distraction from the broader point. This shouldn't be about Haley, he's just a symptom of the larger disease, which is ownership and management.
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But again... his resume was no thinner than Gruden, Tomlin, or John Harbaugh. We all were excited to get someone young rather than someone old and stale. As for gushing... again, we're not talking about just player-speak. Warner texts Haley to this day. Keyshawn always pumps Haley up--he doesn't do that for any other coach. One of the bases for your argument is that he's irascible and that his act is tired to his players, and I'm pointing out that players seemed to really like him. Abnormally so. And if he's irascible and losing the team, it doesn't explain why guys like Flowers and Charles are signing long-term extensions.
As for co-existing... maybe yes, or maybe he shouldn't have been given Weis in the first place. Knowing what we know now, isn't it highly possible that Weis was forced on Haley? Because Weis seems to be the only assistant he's struggled to get along with.
Your last point is one I agree with. I feel like Haley has been forced into the Patriot Way. Pioli's done little to give Haley great players and he forced a 3-year QB experiment on Haley that isn't very good. I'd bet that forcing Weis/Romeo on Haley was also a Pioli decision. I still like Haley as a coach, but I've turned to ultra concerned about our GM. If the culture is toxic that absolutely starts from the top.