Originally Posted by AustinChief
No, but I KNOW the facts surrounding him and his actions.. Jesus, how ****ing hard is that to understand. Yes, he may have changed his ways and become a sweetheart the last few years... but since I have ZERO evidence of that and and an overwhelming amount of evidence showing him to be a prick for most of his life.. I'll go with what I KNOW.
Quit being dense. You don't KNOW Kim Jong-Il but I'd guess you could study up and know enough of his actions to draw a reasonable conclusion as to what kind of person he is. This isn't rocket surgery dude.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around people excusing him stealing from Woz. It's not like stealing an idea or stealing credit.. he directly STOLE money from him... that's beyond shitty. End of story.
I think the sticking point here is being a prick and being a revolutionary and important figure aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, those that are the most influential have often been cited to be among the most dastardly. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of the guy, but I can definitely see those who believe that in exchange for his contributions he is above reproach for whatever underhanded shit he did.