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Originally Posted by TheGuardian
First off. Elway was NEVER EVER as good as Denver fans, or even a lot of KC fans, think or remember.
There are a few factors here.
One, the AFC was absolutely garbage for most of the 80's. Elway was the best of a shitty bunch. Big ****in deal. He got decimated in the three super bowls he played in before Shanahan came along and they cheated the cap and played borderline rule breaking schemes.
If Elway is going to be given all the credit for carrying those shit teams, then he'll take all the blame for getting his shit pushed in in those 3 super bowls. You can't have it both ways.
The fact is, Elway was not quite as good as Jim Kelly. If the Bills had won 2 or 3 of those SB's no one would really be having that discussion.
The years they went to the playoffs and super bowls, Denver generally had good defenses. Let's not kid ourselves.
The years they went to the playoffs before Rayboy arrived, when Elway was supposedly carrying that team the defense was ranked (in terms of points allowed....)
83 - 9th
84 - 2nd
86 - 15th
87 - 7th
89 - 1st
91- 3rd
93 - 10th
Let's stop ****ing about like Elway carried some god damn team. 6 of the 7 seasons they went to the playoffs Denver fielded a top 10 defense. Hell, three of those seasons they were top 3!
Elway built a legacy based on some 4th quarter comebacks. But the guy never carried a god damn team. It's stupid. Denver fans have their heads up their asses when it comes to Elway.
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Go ahead and list the Hall of Fame RBs, WRs, and OL he played with. Heck list the Pro Bowl players he played with on offense...you know that popularity contest they hold every year. Now list the All Pros he played with. All the other QBs he is compared with had vastly superior talent surrounding them.