Let's back up. Comparing Manning (Eli) to Tom Brady is like comparing Kenny O'Brien to Joe ****ing Montana. Let's not bother.
Let's compare Eli to Rivers. That works well both because they both came out the same year, and YOU specifically said:
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Originally Posted by Loonie Hootie
Hootie2485 (2:03:52 AM): he is WAY BETTER than Rivers
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Completion %: Rivers 63.5% / Eli 58.2%
Yards: Identical, more or less, at 24,000
Yards Per Attempt (critical stat for success): Rivers 8.0 / Eli 6.9
TD/Ints: Rivers 163:78 / Eli 164:115
Fumbles (hidden QB stat): Rivers 52, lost 24 / Eli 67, lost 31
Rushing yards etc.: Wash -- neither one of these can run worth a damn -- both have 2.0 or less lifetime rushing average.
So there is not a SINGLE statistical category that Eli is better in than Rivers. Not one. Now, you could argue, and I would absolutely agree, that Rivers had had better offensive talent around him. Life is easier with a Tomlinson, a Gates, a VJax, etc. But IMHO Eli has had better defenses on average (giving him more possessions, and less pressure to win by himself) and better coaching (Norv Turner sucks as HC, no ifs, ands or buts about it).