[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Possibly, but you can't lay 8-8 on TT ... you can put 7-4 on him since that was the team's record once he became the starter.

Look, this team wasn't expected to do much when Orton was the starter. They over-achieved that expectation by starting off 1-4.

Yes - TT has his issues as a starting QB, but the team rallied.
Yes - the Chiefs, Raiders and Chargers did their best to out-choke each other in their pursuit of not winning the division.
Yes - Denver ended the season on a 3 game skid and won the division at 8-8.

The bottom line is that while TT was starting, they were 8-5 this season... and no, it wasn't pretty and often it was downright brutal. But, there's potential there.

I think people are kidding themselves when they say "had they started a better QB, the team would have done more."

Guess what... they did start a QB for 5 games (that many will say is better) and that you guys started to enjoy in your final few games. And, Denver went 1-4 with him and Lloyd in the offense.

All I'm saying is they did well considering the start and challenges they had on offense this season. We'll see how TT evolves prior to next season and we'll find out quickly what the team plans to do to build around him on offense.

But, you can't lay 8-8 at the feet of TT... you can put 8-5 at his feet though.

And, regarding your comment of "go find a different QB". Name 3 FAs that are hands down better for them that are available in FA. This will be fun, I know 2 names that most of you will throw out there... and no, they don't fit the description of "hands down better".

They also finished the season 1-4 BTW. Getting blowy u to bits in 3 of those. The gimmick offense has been figured out. I'm not sure that bodes well for a bright future out in Pile High.