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Old 06-12-2012, 01:45 PM   #91
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Maybe in the comic book world.
That's the point I was making a few days ago. The Avengers are bigger right now in a mainstream sense than they've ever been prior. And it's all recent. Flash back four years ago, how many people outside of geeks like us - meaning regular people - would recognize Iron Man, or know anything about him. Captain America before 2011 had a horrible movie that about 6 people saw in 1990. Some people might have recognized Thor from The Incredible Hulk Returns. But probably not. And I doubt anybody now still has a clue who Black Widow and Hawkeye even are. At the start of this run of movies, the Hulk was it. People know him (sort of) thanks to Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno.

DC characters have had a bigger mainstream presence, and it goes back decades. Batman's had multiple movies and TV series. 's had multiple radio shows, tv series and movies. Wonder Woman's had a TV series. Even Flash had a tv series in 1990 (I was one of about 4 people who watched it I think). Ten years ago they tried (and failed...) an all female show with Birds of Prey. Recently they had a shit ton of characters appear on Smallville, everybody from Aquaman to Hawkman to Green Arrow. Green Arrow's had a movie, bad as it was. All this without even talking about the cartoons that have been running basically nonstop on Cartoon Network since 2001 (Justice League, Justice League: Unlimited, Young Justice, Young Justice Invasion) and their predecessor in Bruce Timm's Batman: The Animated Series which ran on Fox back in the early 90s.

I'm not arguing that DC is better than Marvel. I don't have a horse in that race; I enjoy them both. But DC has benefitted for years and years because of their connection with Warner, and their characters have been in the public eye basically forever because of it. On the flip side, Marvel's presence has been centered primarily on the Fantastic Four, Hulk, Spider-Man and the X-Men. Which is not to say that I don't love what they've done to build the Avengers in the last 5 years. They've totally flipped Warner's pre-existing mainstream non-comic advantage on its head, and now they're the big dog. It's a new thing, and hopefully it motivates DC to do something similarly epic in scale outside of what Nolan's done.
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