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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale
You kinda whiffed on this one buddy.
It wasn't about climbing. Bruce didn't struggle with the climb. It was about that one jump. That one moment.
If he had the rope and he failed... no big loss. He could try tomorrow. Without the rope it was all or nothing, and at that moment when he prepared for that jump the fear of failure would push him to exceed himself.
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The rope was the
very thing that prevents people from completing the jump. Only two people have escaped from that prison, and both didn't use the rope. That jump was so easy a little girl made it.
It totally makes the hyper-intelligent Bane look like a ****ing idiot for not figuring it out. Which leads me to...
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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn
It seems a lot of people (not just here, but on other boards, reviews, etc) are saying they felt Bane was neutered in the second act, that it was a big mistake to take all the wind out of him in favor of the "lame" Talia twist. People are saying they don't care about Talia at all, that they want more Bane. I happen to disagree, but it seems a common issue with the film.
For those who didn't like the twist and felt it hindered Bane, can I ask how you felt about Ra's reveal in Batman Begins? Because that is sort of the same thing, isn't it? Scarecrow seems to be the villain, he sort of disappears later in the movie, has a final scene that feels maybe anti-climactic, and all in favor of revealing that Ducard is alive and is, in fact, Ra's al Ghul.
If Batman Begins didn't bother you, but TDKR did, may I ask why? Is it how powerful Bane is versus how powerful Scarecrow is? Is it because we had more time to invest in Ducard/Ra's? I'm just curious. This isn't meant to be a challenge or anything, just conversation.
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I'll need to watch Begins again, because its' been like six or seven years since I've seen it. But it probably has to do with how powerful and smart Bane is, and how much the Talia twist directly takes away from what the audience was to understand was the source of Bane's power and intelligence: his ability (that allowed him) to escape the prison.