Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon
also it just might be a good thing to hurry up and tank this country now rather than delaying it as long as possible. I believe it was Thomas Paine that said, "If bad must come, let it be in my day, so that my children may know peace."
The current path of entitlements is un-sustainable, the takers out-number the givers. Nothing short of drastic measures will reverse that. Too many people have become dependent on government subsidies. The rest have become apathetic or complacent.
"Apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom."-not sure who said that
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When in world history has a country ever tanked it's own freedoms and liberties and ever regained them back ??? Hell, when has a country truly ever had what our country has had in liberties and freedoms not too mention the wealth and advanced culture, LOST them and then regained them ???
Hasn't happened and it won't happen. Once their gone they are gone for good and the reason why is to your point about apathy(laziness of wanting the state to give them so-called security as opposed to self-reliance. Self-reliance is waaaaaaaay too hard for a fat and happy deadbeat society that is almost 50% there. "Shit, why work if you don't have to and supposedly still have damn near the same socioeconomic level of living? And that's the dirty little lie that those who buy into the 'apathy - the rich guy owes me, "Frankie Fungus" - bullshit argument' that in reality the 'poor deadbeats' get truly poorer and more of the middle class join the deadbeat class not wanting or deserving to be poor.
This is what truly happens when you buy into the Marxist class warfare argument. Nowhere in world history has 'socialism' EVER worked for ALL in a society.
So to say we need to tank the country ASAP is just truly naive thinking.