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Old 09-06-2012, 10:53 AM   #62
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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell View Post
Didn't see the speech, but I'm not surprised at the wet dream reactions of the Libs. Clinton is the best speaking president we've had since Reagan, it's no shock that he probably delivered and excellent speech. Full of shit as always, but a great speaker nonetheless. I give him props for that all the time.
I don't agree with your assessment of his politics, but this is my general point: regardless of whether someone does, they have to admit that he's a brilliant public speaker. So I'm with you there.

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I personally would not argue that Bush was the worst of all time, but I'd probably have him in my bottom ten, maybe even bottom 5 if I were more familiar with Presidential history.
Well, Harding was as corrupt as the day is long, Andrew Johnson was a barely-literate punching bag of the bloodthirsty post-war northern Congress bent on revenge, Buchanan's inactions did more to hand us the Civil War than any other, and Pierce's son died gruesomely in front of him just before inauguration, so he crawled into a bottle and spent his entire administration there. I'm no fan of Bush, but due to these four, he'll never be worse than number five on the Awful Presidents list.

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Here's the real question -- if Bill Clinton had run in 2012 would he have won? I'm hard-pressed to think he wouldn't beat both of these guys.
He would have pulverized them both.

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The scary part is that there are people on both sides that let these dog and pony shows dictate their vote.
There are. More to the point, though - and you hear this message come in both - there are people already in the tank for one side or the other who are inspired to go pound the pavement by what they see at the conventions. One of my friends is seriously considering running for office now after last night (and she could win, too). If one party doesn't show, their party will almost certainly lose, this year more than others.
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