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Old 09-25-2012, 04:24 PM   #97
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Originally Posted by alnorth View Post
Direckshun, your position on this issue is just completely indefensible.

The legitimacy of our elections is one of the most important things to safeguard in our country, and one of the primary requirements for a legitimate election is allowing only those who can vote, to vote.

It doesn't matter if its rare, it doesn't matter if you think Republicans are pushing it for partisan political reasons, and it doesn't matter if they almost never influence the outcome of an election, it doesn't freaking matter. It is incredibly easy to get an ID, and it is our civic duty to prove we are eligible to vote if asked.

Serial killers are also one of the rarest kinds of murderers out there, and logically we shouldn't devote more resources to catching them than any other kind of murder, but the people become incredibly frightened and then angry if its not a top priority. Similarly, it is greatly offensive to a lot of people, logic aside, to think that it can be very easy to vote when you are not a citizen.

In this case, it just so happens that attempting to ensure that voters are legally able to vote may impact your side. Tough luck, you do not have any moral legitimacy in opposing these voter ID and verification laws.

If you don't like it, cheer up: the Republicans are doomed anyway (until they adapt and shift to the left) due to demographics. If not now, then surely in a decade or two when whites are no longer a majority racial group
Voters are already legally cleared as citizens to vote. Fraud is at or near zero.

The rarest kind of voter fraud is voter impersonation. So rare, that 200+ cases of other kinds of voter fraud occur for every recorded instance of voter impersonation. Which is already mind-bogglingly rare.

The Pennsylvania GOP already admitted this was a partisan move to address a problem that is a rounding error's rounding error, with a solution that wouldn't have stopped any of their examples of voter fraud.

In order for voter impersonation to affect even a close election, it would have to occur on a widespread conspiracy scale not seen in modern history, and would conceivably be rendered impossible by the safeguards we already have in place.

My moral ground, high or not, is the same as yours. The right for my voice to be heard as an American is sacred.

So I'll take the solution that says we'll allow a shit ton of voters to continue successfully voting the way they've been without having to reasonably worry about voter fraud, over your solution which says let's make all these folks jump through an unnecessary step for no useful purpose that will almost certainly disenfranchise tons of tax paying Americans.
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