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Old 09-30-2012, 06:46 AM   #201
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
Your entire party is bashing anyone and everyone that is due or collecting "Entitlements", yet you back them. So with that being the case, isn't it hypocritical for you, as a die hard Republican, to accept Social Security benefits, especially since your party is attempting demonize ALL entitlements?

Are you a cafeteria Republican?
First of all yes I'm a cafeteria republican. I go against the grain because I'm willing to do what it takes to turn the economy around. In that I believe we should drop all the Obama tax cuts across the board since a flat tax is out of the question.

Either you aren't paying attention or your partisan rose colored glasses are getting in the way of what republicans believe about entitlements. I think most conservatives believe there is a place for things like Medicaid. There will always be people that need it. What we don't like is abuse of the system. Abuse can be people going out of their way to live off the government, and it can also be a political party implementing policies that make it easy for people to abuse it. For the later I'll use the 2009 stimulus as an example. Dems spent a trillion dollars as a stop gap and food stamps have still risen to record numbers. That's fact you can't spin.

Instead of working to keep SS solvent, we passed a 2% payroll tax cut for little more than political reasons. Both parties are guilty of that. Both parties are guilty of the position we're in. It's time to take the medicine and quit lying to the public.

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Dude, here's the BIG difference between you and your ilk and me: I have NEVER, not for ONE second, EVER thought I'd see Social Security benefits. EVER.

I've heard this story since I was a kid in the 80's: The government is abusing Social Security and it won't be there in 20 years, blah, blah, blah. So, I've never once counted on it. Ever.

Furthermore, retirement is a joke. Unless you have at least $2 million in the bank and your home completely paid off by age 65, you're not retiring at age 65. Well, unless you live in a city or state that's either extremely cheap or extremely depressed.

I'm pretty much planning to work until the day I die. And that's fine by me.
I'm thrilled you are willing to for go SS. I doubt that you will not accept the benefit though when the time comes. I think it's silly you are paying into the system and don't want to keep your politicians accountable. Maybe that's the difference between us, I have this expectation for accountability. There is nothing, repeat nothing, wrong with expecting the government to hold up their end of the bargain in the SS contract. Not to do so just means you're part of the problem and politicians will just use you as a pawn.

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Phony. Fake. In your case, RINO. Those aren't insults, they're fact. If you truly believed in what your party was spewing, you'd refuse to cash the SS checks.
While I agree with your definition I don't agree with your conclusion. To play the 'if you believe in your convictions you wouldn't cash the checks' card is just a way to justify ignoring the issue.
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