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Old 10-11-2012, 05:12 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
Biden's big problem is the current state of foreign affairs. With Libya, Yemen, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, Syria-Turkey etc... foreign policy is (at least in the most current news) not a strong suit for this administration.

Ryan certainly doesn't have a record of his own to run on here but it may be enough to point out all the current "failures". (I put that in quotes because it is all about perception RIGHT NOW and not whether you think that is the reality or not)
No doubt the attack in Libya has been handled really shitty.

But the administration has been given incredibly complex issues in the Middle East, and did its best to cling to the least shitty options. When Syria is murdering their own civilians, there's really nothing you can do that's """"good"""", which is also true of our Libyan campaign, Egypt's popular revolution, Yemen's revolution, Pakistan's instability and harboring of enemies, Iran's brutal crackdown.... Afghanistan's the only true cluster**** we could have had any major hand in, and man -- you want to talk about nothing but shit options.

So you're dead right -- it's a ton easier to criticize how things are going down in the Middle East than it is to offer solutions. Blah.

If I'm Biden, I'd argue the following accomplishments: we withdrew out of Iraq. We're withdrawing out of Afghanistan. We killed OBL on a ballsy mission that delivered on a key Obama 2008 platform -- the guy puts his money where his mouth is. We neutered Qaddafi without putting our boots on the ground, we applied backroom pressure to Mubarak, and we've economically crippled Iran. We've chased terrorists everywhere in the Middle East, essentially wiping out AQ in Afghanistan.

Of course, you know me AC. I've despised plenty of what we've done in the Middle East. But if I'm Biden, that's a lot of the stuff I run on.
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