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Old 10-11-2012, 05:39 PM   #61
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I agree this will be fun to watch. I have always told people that Biden is a top notch debater BUT I am worried that he has been in such a bubble for the last 4 years that he may not perform as well as in the past. We'll see though.

Regarding Ryan's budget. It will come down to framing. If Biden frames it as a shining example of just how right Ryan and Romney are and can defend that position, he scores points. I just can't imagine Ryan wouldn't defuse that easily. If I were him, I'd have my "zingers" ready for just that eventuality.

1)point out that Biden may want to check his calendar because he's reading a document that is x days old and no longer valid
2)make a funny but seemingly harmless, we're buddies, I'm just bustin your chops type of remark about his statement being a gaffe
3)explain what I currently have as my budget etc
4)make another reference to Biden "catching" up to current state of affairs

Then when Biden tries to say, "well you ONCE believed that.. that's important"

5)point out how he and Obama have evolved on certain issues (quote an embarrassing example or two) and why is he(Ryan) not allowed the same latitude

That pretty much kills the issue dead.
I've always liked Biden a lot more in debates, because he's far more disciplined. Almost all his hilarious/stupid gaffes seem to be in front of crowds where he gets amped up and flies off script.

Smart post though. I don't agree it kills the issue, I keep going back to it if I'm Biden. Past positions don't vanish into the ether, and the fact that the Ryan budget has kept evolving from the far right as we get closer to election time...
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