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Old 10-22-2012, 09:00 PM   #422
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Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
wow, that's actually a pretty scathing indictment of 538. To be clear, I'm not anti-538 (even though it is a fact that Silver is an ardent Obama supporter) I am however, skeptical of the weight people give to a model that worked ONCE (2008) and is otherwise completely unproven.

EDIT: For all those who are hard core 538ers... if Romney wins big (doubtful) will you switch allegiance to a site like unskewedpolls.com that is predicting just that? (342-196) I for one will call it like I see it, both sites are unproven and full of guesswork and taking them as bible truth is just idiotic,
I put a lot of weight on the methodology. If 538 proves wrong, I don't think it will be by much, because the methodology is strong. If he did turn out to be way off it would be due to some fundamental change in the electorate. I wouldn't switch to unskewedpolls no matter what. A bad method that gets the right answer for the wrong reason isn't likely to be reliable in the future.

I did't find the National Review article that convincing. For example, they criticize the low weight given to the Rasmussen poll, but they didn't mention why it is given a low weight. It is because they don't include any cell-phone-only users in their polls That was fine in 2000, but this is 2012. That poll has a weak methodology and therefore gets a low weight. The National Review has a strong right tilt, so its not surprising that they don't like a method that shows their guy down. If they are going to criticize Nate Silver, they are going to have to at least step up to his level of nerdiness.
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