Originally Posted by HMc
Yeah I wouldn't take it to cure pancreatic cancer either, that doesn't mean the "scientific research has been mixed" any more than "there is no evidence that creatine helps with endurance sports" does.
People don't take it for endurance sports because it's useless for that. The science is in when it comes to short-bursts though, and it's conclusively beneficial. Saying it's of no use for endurance is about as relevant as pointing out that your car won't run on it or that EPO is useless for weightlifting.
I take Superpump Max pre-workout and it's much been much better for me than the coffee I was having before. Whether or not there's a placebo effect is academic to me.
On the topic of supplements though - just because something occurs naturally in our body or in our usual diet, doesn't mean we can't use more of that thing if we want to increase the demands on our body (by making it larger or whatever). If supplementing was entirely bunk in theory, supplementing testosterone with needles wouldn't work either. I mean, we already have test in our bodies, right?
What the people who claim to have science on their side don't realize is that the misinformation is on both sides. There is an interest in promoting and selling products and there is also an interest in discrediting everything right down to quality nutrition and supplementation especially in the US. The global scientific community releases all kinds of research that is almost impossible to find here unless you really want to spend a lot of your time doing your own due-diligence. Muscular Developement magazine used to have a section they printed monthly on that type of information but I have no idea if they still do as I am down to the very basics getting older. My supps are pretty simple at this point, Ubiquinol, krill, astaxanthin, folic acid, B, D3, C, NO and occasionally ZMA when I want to really sleep longer or are having problems. I pick up testosterone levels various ways as well. I don't need much more as my diet is pretty tight as this point and I preffer getting most of the nutrition I need from a quality diet. I went with getting my probiotics like that recently.