Thread: Economics Karl Rove and Super PACs
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:13 AM   #56
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Then why do it anonymously? I get the whole "bribery is free speech" argument. I just don't agree with it. If one wants to exercise their free speech rights they have every right to do so without secretly donating millions to shadow organizations that work "indirectly" for political campaigns.

The epitomy of free speech is standing in the town square proclaiming one's beliefs. Anonymous dontations and free speech are not the same thing.
I'm in favor of as much transparency as possible, but if Apple decides to buy some heavy advertising in opposition to a candidate who wants to ban tablet computers, there aren't really any specific contributors to identify.

That said, the decision makers at these public corporations are well known. The topic of this thread identifies Karl Rove as the driving force behind the Crossroads corp.

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And since when are corporations people?
Since the concept of the corporation was created. We tax them like people (albeit under a separate tax code). We allow them to enter into contracts like people. We hold them liable like people. It's the essence of the corporate concept.

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They're not. So why do those who operate within a corporate entity get to double dip when it comes to free speech and donations? That person has the same rights the rest of us do as citizens. And they can give under the same limitations. Why then should they also get to hide behind the banner of a corporation and give tons more than we could ever give individually?

It tilts the playing field in favor of corporations. And disempowers the average American. That is painfully obvious. All Citizens United accomplished was to define money as speech. And those with the most money have the most speech. One bank account can drown out the voices of millions.
First of all, they can't give more than individuals.

Second, the Superpac concept would go away altogether if we eliminated individual contribution limits.
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