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Old 11-15-2012, 09:43 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by dirk digler View Post
Because I'm a babbling idiot I recognize babbling idiots. But most of all, I am proving how I am losing my argument.
I agree.


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I have stated for the longest time I believe in Medicare for All. That is no surprise.
Fine. But it's still more power at the federal level. That's all I am saying. It denies choices for others on what they would do with that money they pay into that program. Now those who paid into it for years got it cut. Denying them what was promised when they complied.

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Immigration and enforcement of our borders is a federal issue and always will be.
Thank you for more proof of what I said, even though this is not what the Constitution states.

There was no real provision here at the time of the founding.

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And the one thing that Feds should do is National defense, doesn't matter if it is offense or defense the goal is to protect this country.
Well, I agree on defense...but offense, or starting war, is another seizing of power at the federal level since it's not what our Framers intended. We can argue all day long as to whether it's truly defense which historically has not been the case. Our Framers, who supported balanced govt, also supported the then standards for international law at their time which recognized this as aggressive. It also violates the Nuremberg standards on starting wars that we imposed on Germany.

Then there's the case I haven't seen you make about how it's the role of congress to declare war not a president. Yet Obama started acts of war on Libya under Nato which is under the wanna-be govt —the UN.

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Most people aren't stupid RP's supporters who believe we shouldn't defend this country and our allies overseas.
Most people? I guess you haven't seen the polls on the American people being war weary and think we're doing too much in this area. Sounds like it. You can diss Paul all you want, but he was the one who owned this issue when it came to most of the American people.

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Also if you could actually read which I am pretty sure you can't I said the Things the Fed government shouldn't do or have a less role in.
I am just saying, I don't see you calling for any action to roll back the federal govt but consistently argue for increasing its role if you look at it as a lump sum total. And you insisted how a state should conduct education. That's imposing your value choices on another state.

Your move.

My guess, it will start out with another ad hominem. I guess you've conceded.
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