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Old 11-26-2012, 11:12 AM   #265
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Originally Posted by KC Fish View Post
The idea of divinely-granted "Free will" kind of invalidates itself though. If God has foreknowledge of all things, then free will can't really exist.

If man has free will, then God cannot know all things. And as such, he would not be a God. True free will, and an omnipotent God, cannot really exist simultaneously.
I guess if your idea of a God is that he knows or cares about every day-to-day decision in your life, then I can see how you would believe that. That isn't inconsistent with the apparent views of some people of faith who say things are done 'by God's will' or 'only God knows'.

Again, I take a different point of view. I see God as having set the wheels in motion, not only from the standpoint of man but as it pertains to the laws of nature. This is how I can reconcile believing in both an evolutionary and creationist theory of life on Earth. Once the wheels are in motion, God lets the will of man decide his fate. He reveals Himself and His intentions through His creations--both in their thoughts and actions.

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And getting back to the evolution of laws, we also have proof of moral evolution and ethics in our observation of indigenous tribes who have never had contact with the outside world. These people came to have a social hierarchy and an evolution of rules completely untouched by religion of any kind. If a species is to prosper, it must abide by certain basic rules, else it cannot prosper. We see this happen with countless species. If there is no basic social order, then species would simply kill each other aimlessly, and the species would fail. The most basic premise of life is to continue your species. All species abide by this. If there weren't some sort of base morality in all species, we wouldn't see any non-human species living in any groups or families.
I'm not sure a social hierarchy is proof of morals, but your argument still begs the question: Where did this drive to propogate your own species come from? If we and other animals are derived from a mass of atoms, why would that evolved mass of atoms care if other masses of atoms even exist at all?
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