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Old 11-26-2012, 02:03 PM   #54
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Originally Posted by patteeu View Post
One option would have been to elect John McCain in 2008.

The idea that if some guy on a football messageboard doesn't present a specific course of action that everyone can agree would work then it proves that nothing could have led to a better result than what we got is ridiculous.

That said, I've already listed some of the levers we could have used to influence the situation. We should have tried to support Mubarack while pushing him to placate his people with political reforms. If that didn't work and Mubarack was going to step down, we could have supported a replacement from the military along with political liberalization. If that didn't work, we could have used our influence to encourage the military to insist on retaining a share of the power knowing that if push came to shove they could count on our support in the power struggle. If that didn't work, we could continue to use every aspect of our leverage, both overt and covert, to prevent ending up with a MB dictatorship. Instead, we did pretty much the opposite at each and every point. In the end, the scoreboard agrees with me, at least at this point.
it seems you have misapprehended my question...

i didn't ask for options that everyone agrees would have worked, i asked for options that YOU think would have worked...

and the suggestion that my question would somehow prove anything is just that - your suggestion...

putting words in my mouth is ridiculous...

painting strawmen as ridiculous is ridiculous...

have you joined the bep school of reasoning?
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