Originally Posted by patteeu
I'm not sure what you think I'm saying. My point is that there's no reason to revere each and every position the founding fathers might have had (to the extent that they had a consensus). And it's particularly weird when a liberal tries to play the founding fathers card.
You and I agree on this subject. However when you bring up the founding fathers saying they created something with the implication being they ( the left) are dismissing the thoughts of the founding fathers and the add "women and blacks" into the argument you have immediately lessen your argument. The founding fathers were derelict in their treatment of both~