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Old 12-04-2012, 09:40 AM   #9142
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To be fair, a .738 OPS against with the bases empty is pretty shitty in its own right.

Matt Morris had issues like this towards the end of his time with the Cardinals. It seemed like his stuff really diminished when he pitched from the stretch. The Cardinals still refused to keep him in the windup with men on, though.

There's a good chance that his shoulder was just hamburger already, but you couldn't miss the fact that he was still throwing 94 from the windup. Maybe it wouldn't have made a difference, but I sure would've liked to have seen them try.

With Hoch, what the hell could it hurt? Though, like I said, getting a pitcher w/ a .738 OPSA for your troubles that now can't hold baserunners isn't exactly a bangup resolution either.
Absolutely, he's not a good pitcher regardless how you slice the data. But for a team that's been criticized for refusing to embrace the sabermetric side of the game to say they just don't understand what the problems are, with this data staring them in the face, is demoralizing.
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