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Old 12-13-2012, 01:48 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by Bootlegged View Post
Gutting - Keeping them solvent - same thing, right?

Keeping them solvent? Hardly.

No, it's really about the uber wealthy and investors continuing to increase their share of wealth.....amidst an economic climate in which 95% of society has seen miniscule increases to stagnant to declining earnings in the last 10-15 yrs (in puchasing power--real income, adjusted for inflation,) while those who have fared much better insist on even more.

Originally Posted by KCWolfman View Post
The simple middle ground is the answer. See my earlier post on HSA's. Why wasn't the logical completed?

The reason, I believe, is the Republicans enjoyed the perks of being courted by the insurance companies and the Democrats enjoy currying the votes of people who don't earn their amenities by painting those that have more as vicious ogres.
HSA's would work for many middle and upper-class folks, but not so well for the working poor and lower-middle class folks. However, I agree they could have been--still may yet be, part of an evolving solution.

I agree both parties sleeping with politicians drove the current configuration, but time will change the precise parameters of Obamacare. I understand why some feel others "don't earn their amenities." On the other hand, the industry did this to itself when it created a system in which hardworking middle-class people are forced into bankruptcy by a health crisis. Americans, rightly, have said--enough.

While Obamacare is far from perfect, the industry really gave us no reasonable alternative. Many of us consider it a reasonalble starting point to fixing a broke system--one that's been badly broken for more than 20 years.
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