Originally Posted by BigRedChief
So I don't buy we need guns to protect us from tyranny. I can get on board with we need guns to protect my family from bad guys.
You are contradicting yourself. The "bad guys" includes tyrants by definition. BTW, my argument against tyranny and for liberty is the exact same reason as our Founders.
I guess you just don't like the reason the 2nd Amendment was written.
“Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” — James Madison