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Old 12-24-2012, 11:42 PM   #857
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You want to ban all semiautomatic weapons??? That is crazy talk. The high capacity magazine and possibly even looking at certain ammo are somewhat reasonable things to consider. (even if I don't agree entirely, compromises could be made here, personally a 15 round limit wouldn't really bother me but as I have pointed out, it will not make an ounce of difference but to sooth people like yourself) but banning all semi-autos is nuts.
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Yo do realize that with a revolver you get the exact same effectiveness as a semi-auto with a 6 round magazine? (well technically, it would need to be 5 rounds with one in the chamber I guess)
As I stated in my previous post, I realize that any attempt I make to draw a line in the sand will necessarily entail the fact that some banned guns will be very similar to some legal guns. But that's going to happen no matter what. For instance, you seem okay with limiting magazines to 15 rounds. What's the difference between 15 rounds and 16?

The idea, of course, is that we need to erect barriers.

Of course, the problem with your line of thinking is that the barriers being suggested aren't considerable enough, so we shouldn't erect hardly any barriers at all.

The reason we're seeing so many mass shootings is because there's virtually no barrier whatsoever to flying off the handle and going nuts. Erecting some barriers will deter some folks from doing so. Erecting more barriers will deter more people. The goal is to improve what is clearly a dire situation.

Which is, of course, another problem with your line of thinking: you don't think 10,000-12,000 gun related deaths a year is a dire situation, for reasons that pass understanding.

Pardon the phrasing here, but I don't delude myself into thinking there's a silver bullet to preventing mass shooting and gun related deaths in general. The key is erecting reasonable barriers that won't really affect civilian life in any practical way while remaining constitutional.

There are a lot of ways to do this. Centralizing background checks, mental health reform, closing the gun show loophole, some extra security measures aren't out of the question. But gun restrictions on when and where you carry, and on what you carry, are a necessary part of the package.
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