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Old 12-25-2012, 02:51 AM   #905
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Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
Well you have now gone from "the statistics you presented aren't evidence," to "okay, they're evidence, they're just not viable (which I've been saying from the start!" back to "they're not evidence."

Two alternate conclusions one could draw: 1. You don't know what evidence is. 2. You're just squirming because you have no where to go on this particular point.

Edit: Clearly, squirming is the answer, since you decided to only present one potential definition of "evidence" from dictionary.com.

Tell me AC -- what was definition #3? Care to copy and paste that?
Listen you little weasel. You are obviously the one who has issues with the meaning of words. EVIDENCE is only EVIDENCE if it APPLIES. Here is that 3rd definition for you
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Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
What you presented does not meet this standard therefore it is NOT evidence. Seriously, how do you not know the meaning of the word??? Evidence does not mean shit I present to you as evidence even though it in fact is just a stat that is meaningless in the context of this debate. You can call it "stats" or "facts" but unless it proves your point by applying to the argument at hand.. it isn't EVIDENCE. Basic understanding of English is a must here.

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You have yet to really back this up with anything other than unverifiable bullshit that you think you think.
Burden of proof is on YOU. Show me how it DOES apply. I at least have first hand knowledge that informs me otherwise. You on the other hand have nothing.

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If you're arguing that the United States is incapable of being compared to any other Western nation...

...then that is a position you're welcome to have. But I'm guessing almost nobody else outside of the NRA cocoon shares it.
In this regard, it doesn't apply and the burden is for YOU to show how and why it does.

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You wouldn't know that information, because I haven't provided it. You have chosen to make an assumption, which you were going to do anyway if I had provided an answer.

Here's another tip: don't ask questions when you're just going to believe your own version of the answer. You have no idea who I am, that is by design.
Ah, you assume what I do and don't know about you. Where is your proof to back that up?

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First hand knowledge is important in some realms, but it's not useful online, where we can simply make up shit about ourselves and it's completely unverifiable.
What proof would you like? Proof that I saw what I saw (impossible) or proof that I lived in Spain? (easy)
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