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Old 12-25-2012, 03:58 AM   #923
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Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
There are far more Western countries, really almost every single one of them, that I can show that have less access to guns than we do, and have far less gun homicides than we do.

I made this point earlier, but you rebuffed it because all of these countries are incomparable to us in every way.

So, you pick up on Switzerland, and you're like "well these guys don't fit your theory, so they clearly fit the narrative for America I'm trying to sell."

Again, you're trying to have it both ways. You're telling me no country is applicable, but you can apply Switzerland.
You are almost pointless to debate with when you can't follow logic in any meaningful way.

Let's try again. I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY THE SWISS ARE THE SAME AS US. I am clearly using them to show that they (and other Western countries) are NOT the same. It really isn't that ****ing hard. I am clearly saying they are NOT applicable. I am using them to show the holes in YOUR logic, not to prop up any of mine. Holy crap you are dense if you can;t see this.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
Not necessarily. It's also possible the Swiss are an outlier, which I'd argue they clearly are, given that their entire country is a country club.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Ok this is funny. So let's summarize.

America, England, Japan, Switzerland, France = Western countries.
England, Japan, Switzerland, France = low gun violence
England, Japan, France = low access to guns.

Therefore low access to guns equals low gun violence!!!

Oh what? The Swiss? oh they don't count, they're a country club!

You would have failed every logic class I have ever taken.

I love how the Swiss can be culturally different (country club) and that explains the low gun violence yet America is pretty much the same as the other Western countries. No way we are culturally different as an explanation for our gun violence!

yes, because America is far closer culturally to France and Spain and Japan than Switzerland is to Austria or Germany or Italy.

You do realize how incredibly naive and stupid you sound now right?
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