Thread: Nat'l Security Let's research gun violence.
View Single Post
Old 12-26-2012, 01:16 PM   #963
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $7057
Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
The Swiss simply prove that YOUR premise has no basis in reality. You are claiming that all Western countries have basically the same cultures and yet we have 12X the gun violence. Your then go on to state that this is because we have ready access to guns. Therefore (now try to follow along) if any other Western nation had easy access to guns it too would have high gun violence.
This is wrong on two counts.

1. Because there is one exception to a rule does not discount the rule. It can and has been argued that the Swiss are an aberration based on the country's extraordinary socioeconomic factors and unique internal politics that aren't really duplicated anywhere else on earth (see prior piece from Business Insider).

2. It is much less likely that, to reduce our gun violence rates, we need to embrace policies closer to the vast majority of our Western brethren, other than the completely unrealistic goal of modeling ourselves after Switzerland.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
This article is awesome in every way except its completely wrong conclusions.
el oh el

Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinChief View Post
The author, much like you, is blinded by his belief driven agenda and fails to take into account the true import of the facts he spouts. He points out that the Swiss can't be compared to America because they are so different from America. (Militia state, less population, less poverty, etc) Ok, fine it isn't the same as my cultural argument but close enough. Guess what, idiot? I can point out how those factors or similar ones are true for a comparison of every single Western country and America.
Except that other countries do not have Switzerland's defense dynamic, extraordinary socioeconomic arrangement, and gun ownership rate.

Other than that, yes I'm sure there are arguments to be made for each country....
__________________
Posts: 44,193
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote