Originally Posted by DJ's left nut
Molitoth - do you now see how stupid your post looks when put into context?
Get that shit out of here - leadership is a litmus test, not a driving factor. What wins in this league is talent and yes, you can measure talent. Russell Wilson doesn't win because of "heart" or "determination", he wins because he's a foolishly great athlete with great instincts and sense for the position. I underestimated his potential because of his size and accuracy concerns - I clearly didn't do enough homework.
This Olympics-style human interest shit bores me to tears. Physical talent and intelligence wins ballgames. Leadership can put you over the hump, but we'll worry about that when we get there. Dan Marino was dumb as a hammer and a shit leader, but he won ballgames. Terry Bradshaw was a lazy hillbilly and won 4 Super Bowls. Ryan Fitzpatrick is brilliant and he sucks. Matt Cassel, by all accounts, works as hard as anyone and is as 'determined' as Tom Brady to not blow - he still does.
Blah blah blah - they don't look for heart - blah. Bullshit. Determination does show up on tape and drive shows up in interviews. The good evaluators spot that stuff, the bad ones don't.
Mel Kiper is lazy and doesn't do his homework, it's really as simple as that.
The Marino reference is interesting - there's a reason he set a few dozen NFL records but doesn't have a ring.
The "it" factor is what separates the Montana's from the Marino's. it's what separates Aaron Rodgers from Jay Cutler.
Heart, determination, poise under pressure - they all ABSOLUTELY matter.