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Old 12-27-2012, 08:33 PM   #194
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Originally Posted by Mrs. Loopner View Post
In classical chemistry there are 3 classifications of energy Ė Transitional, Chemical and Vibrational. Iím figuring thatís what you are referring to and thatís what threw me.

In physics, energy falls into two sets: Potential (stored or resting) and Kinetic. Potential pertains to any stored energy that can be used for future use. Kinetic is energy used to displace or move an object.

From that, we can say there are several different types that fall into one of the two sets. Some examples are:
Radiant, Sound, Chemical, Thermal, Mechanical, Gravitational, Nuclear, etc.

When you mention dark energy Iím thinking, dark matter and I would ask you, since dark matter does not absorb light nor emits radiation then it would not follow E=mc2, correct? I think I do understand where youíre going with it but let me see. Youíre saying that the Ďnothingnessí that some scientists say existed before the Big Bang is actually dark matter? I can follow that but dark matterís existence hinges upon the gravitational effect on visible matter doesnít it? And, if there was no visible matter before the Big bang then it doesn't follow although I don't disagree, I think that sounds more reasonable than saying there was real nothingness period.
Iím just trying to follow your thought process.

To address your last few remarks though, a religious book is a religious book as is a science book is a science book they are no different, one from the other, or one to the other. No difference at all. They are words written by humans.

If you truly believe that energy ( in whatever form) has always existed, cannot be created or destroyed, exists in everything and all things then youíve just described God my friend. The claimís exactly the same and no more preposterous than your belief that dark matter has eternal existence from which the Big Bang happened. We are actually a lot closer to agreeing and believing the same thing, and that will make you more uncomfortable than me.

For you to purport Godís contortions (and we wonít visit the 13.7 billion years right now. Thatís for another time) happened and eventually evolved humans on a speck of nothing is more what you believe than I. Just change ďgodĒ to ĎenergyĒ and it is just as mind boggling and outrageous an event. Energy and God, enigmas. Imagine that.

The faith/science you have that a chair will hold you when you sit down is the same faith/science I have in God only mine will never fail and yes, He truly is amazing!
So once again here we are. You boldly throw up an argument for creationism. One question why don't you defend your personal beliefs? Please lay out the factual reasons why your personal beliefs should be recognized and given special consideration. I mean surely you can provide evidence of how you know there is a God and know his thoughts. Go ahead and list this amazing information proving your beliefs are the beliefs we should all follow...I will wait. Before you try keep in mind many of the greatest theological apologists have ducked this in the arena of discussion. Dinesh DíSouza, Frank Turek, William Lane Craig, Douglas Wilson, Tim Rutten to name a few all have taken the creation route due to their personal beliefs being indefensible less the disclaimer of faith. However it would be unfair for me to not give you the opportunity to state your case providing information unavailable to me, and for that matter the rest of the world~
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