Thread: Nat'l Security Let's research gun violence.
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:33 PM   #1054
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Originally Posted by Aries Walker View Post
Ah! The conspiracy video, hallmark of the YouTube age.

There was a lot of chaos around the time of the shooting as news agencies stumbled like idiots over each other to report the Latest! Breaking! News! Anyone can put something together like that now; I could make one right now stating that Ryan Lanza was the "real shooter" and demanding to know why he isn't in custody. No, that's a red herring. Lanza used the XM-15. But why take my word for it? Instead, here's some reporting from the New York Times, Time magazine, and . . . hey, look! RedState.com. Don't fall prey to the conspiracy theorists; he used the XM-15. A lot.
I'm willing to believe you but your links aren't helping. None of them directly quote a police spokesman, the sherrif, or an eye witness. The only one that seems to is redstate and the link they provide for the quote goes to an article that doesn't seem to contain the quote.
Lets find something officially reported and I'll consider it settled.

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But back on track . . .

I am a firm believer that there are things that people on both sides of the debate would support - perhaps greater punishments (or any kind of punishment, really) #1 for those who attempt to buy guns and fail the background check; #2 not allowing those on the terrorist watch list to buy guns; #3 and increased penalties for those who use guns (especially illegal ones) in a violent crime. Am I correct? Do those of you who are fervently pro-gun support that these could be sensible steps that we could take to reduce gun violence?

I'm trying to find some common ground here.
1) The penalty is they don't get to buy a gun. Sucks for them.
2) They can now?
3) Pretty sure there's already "use of deadly weapon" clauses to all violent crimes that increase the mandatory penalty. If I'm wrong I'm sure one of the lawyer types will show up to correct me.
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