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Old 12-29-2012, 05:52 PM   #236
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You do realize that BEP thinks anything other than full on anarchy is leftist elite commies. I think government can have a place to level the playing field and help those that cannot help themselves. Almost christ-like. To that I plead guilty.
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Furthermore, I support more govt than even listopencil who labels himself as a libertarian which is less govt than myself. It's referred to as mini-anarchism. And you're talking to him in a manner that denounces anarchy. LOL. That's the logic of a progressive mind.
I do identify myself as a Libertarian because that's the party that most closely represents my views. Notice that there is a capital "L" at the beginning of that word. That means that I tend to agree with more of the Libertarian platform than I do of the platforms of other political parties. There are some points on their platform that I disagree with. BEP, you found one recently regarding the mentally ill. I don't agree with it.

There are also points that I disagree with in libertarianism in general. I hold socialist beliefs on a handful of issues. Those are mostly issues regarding citizens who, through no fault of their own, are incapable of helping themselves. Children, the mentally handicapped, the physically handicapped, etc. They also include issues that I feel need to be handled by a federal (and sometimes state) government. At one point I jotted off a quick list in a different thread. It's not necessarily complete, but it's a good starting point:

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1) fight a war on foreign soil

2) repel a substantial military invasion

3) provide an appropriate setting for settling legal disputes

4) establish/enforce a system of laws

5) keep records of official documents

Lastly, libertarianism isn't anarchy. It's not even "mini-anarchy" just because someone chooses to refer to it as such. It's about putting power in the hands of citizens, the individual, as much as is possible while still maintaining a functioning government. People who call themselves "libertarians" will disagree with how much power the state should keep, how much socialism should be allowed and several other issues. I prefer to use the Constitution as my rulebook, and my morals as my guide. I happen to think that everyone should.
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