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Old 12-31-2012, 12:19 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by mcaj22 View Post
but it doesnt matter that they didnt have Charles or a run game.

They had Bill ****ing Muir calling plays

and they had somewhat of a passing game. Steve Breaston caught 61 balls that year. Bowe caught 81.

That's enough of offensive output to win 7 games, with a defense led by Flowers, Carr, DJ, Hali having good years.


We didnt have a passing game this season, you can rush for 400 yards with Jamaal Charles and still lose. Daboll and Rac proved that. The talent was clearly better the prior year at the coaching and player evaluation level. Playing a guy like Steve Breaston over Jon Baldwin DOES IN FACT, HELP. Playing a guy like Wallace Gilberry over Allen Bailey DOES IN FACT HELP. Playing Jon McGraw over Abe Elam is a difference. Brandon Carr over Stanford Dishroutt and Jalil Brown


It's a massive drop off in talent, it's painfully obvious.
Right.....uhm....so what exactly are we arguing about? We both agree that the coaches this year did a far worse job than last year, correct?

The drop off from Carr to Routt etc was substantial, but the rest of these scrubs? No effin' way. Gilberry had how many sacks last season? you think there is a substantial difference between Abe Elam and Jon McGraw? Wow...talk about debating over two equally shitty players.

And then you don't take into consideration where the Chiefs were arguably better at from a talent perspective, like the O-Line or TE position.

Yes, Crennel was an awful HC. No, i don't think the 2011 Chiefs were a more talented team than the 2012 version, especially after getting Berry and Charles back. Even Berry on a down year was better than the shit we had last season.

That falls on the coaching staff.

RaC is not a scapegoat. He deserved to be fired.
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