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Old 01-02-2013, 12:22 AM   #167
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
I NEVER said we shouldn't get a QB dude, not ****ing once, and never did I say our QB situation was good or that we didn't need to pickup a QB. All I'm saying is we don't necessarily have to spend our first pick on a QB since there is no clear cut "guy" in the QB prospects, and as it sits right now, we can just about get the same talent from a QB in the second round, as we 'd get in the first.
And you can say the exact same thing for every other position on the football field in this draft.

e.g., Luke Joeckel is currently rated the #1 OT, but Barrett Jones, the 2011Outland Trophy winner at LT, could be had at the top of the second.

Dee Milliner is not markedly better than David Amerson.

Manti Te'o is not markedly better than Kevin Minter.

And we can do this all day long.

As you say, we can get similar talent in the second as we can in the first with just about every single position.

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You need an exercise in comprehension because you are failing dangerously at this one.
You should take your own words to heart. There is a reason that 137 other posters have been beating their respective heads against a wall in replying to you over and over and over. You really aren't as smart as you think you are.

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Also, we have no clue how Stanzi will play at the NFL level, our brain trust has decided we shouldn't evaluate him in an NFL game because we know better. If you are taken in the 5th round or later, you can't be a good QB, right? lols
So, your secondary reason for not taking a QB with the first pick is that we have Ricky Stanzi on the roster? A guy who obviously couldn't beat out Cassel or Quinn? Stunning argument.

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As for the LT, if there is a clear cut LT that separates himself from the rest, **** yeah you draft that guy, especially with the #1 pick. More important than a good QB, is his Left Tackle, do you want to waste the investment of your #1 QB without a tackle to protect him? Its all about the available talent. CAN you get a comparable talent in the 2nd round with an LT as the first round? As of right now, **** no, not even CLOSE. QB? Yes.
Really? Who's the QB that will be available in the second round that's better, that has more upside, that has a higher floor than Geno Smith?

And then, who's the OT who is so much better than everyone else in this draft that you couldn't find comparable talent at the top of the second round?

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Are we that desperate? I mean, I know we have Cassel and Quinn on the roster for now, but do we really have to waste a #1 pick on a QB if the talent is equal to that of a guy we can get in the 2nd round?
See, the thing is that the vast majority of quality posters here feel that Geno Smith is the talent in this draft. On the other hand, the guys who are supporting the "let's draft a LT, or a MLB, or yet another DT" are, for the majority, the true idiots around here that have proven themselves idiots over months and years of ignorant and inane postings.

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Justify that to me and I'll jump on the Geno or bust bandwagon, as of right now I see no justification, at least not until after the combine.
And that's the thing. After Geno just put in three years of starting at the QB position that equalled/surpassed Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin statistically, and that he's shown game in and game out that he's got the necessary tools to be an elite level prospect at the QB position.

So, here's a little justification for you to see:







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