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Old 01-02-2013, 03:11 AM   #80
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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan View Post
Yes, our terms for elite do differ. Perhaps I should just say top 10 QB. Elite is a bit strong. When you say you would be cool with a 2nd round QB, you are saying you are cool with the guys left over. Barkley, Wilson, and Geno will not be there to pick from. You say in years where teams don't need their QB to win games but just not lose them, they don't exist anymore. If they did the Jets and 9ers might actually be SB champs. This again gives me the impression that you just don't understand how important the QB is now compared to 2002. You can't win 4 playoff games, or even 3, without your QB having to win you a game or two.

The Ferentz mention wasn't trying to take down your QB argument, it was just to show the list of things you have said that are crazy tonight.
The Ferentz bit isn't crazy at all.

There's a reason Ferentz has been mentioned year in and year out for the last decade, a reason he signed a 10 year extension loaded with incentives, and it isn't because he's an average Coach, its because he's top notch and everybody in the football world knows that, which is why every year this guy shoots down offers left and right for the NFL.

As for our Definitions and you thinking I'm lost and don't understand the "new" NFL, to me, Eli fits that mold. He's the reigning super bowl champ, so really, not much has changed here.

In fact, here's a recent list.

Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs
Super Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

Only 4 of those guys are Top 5 QB's. Brady, Peyton, Brees, and Rodgers.

Irony that Brad Johnson is still on that list, yet we've somehow moved so far away from it? It really wasn't all that long ago when you think about it, and 1 or 2 years before that, Dilfer won it. So we haven't come nearly as far as you think.
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