Originally Posted by alnorth
Direckshun, the problem with your thread is that, with a few exceptions, most people on this particular board (including myself) who make the "protect from tyranny" argument, are NOT in favor of the Patriot Act or of torture.
So, your thread is pretty much rendered useless.
You're wrong, bro.
I've faced steep opposition just about every time I make pro-civil liberty arguments or arguments against torture. I have no idea what barometer you're using.