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Old 01-04-2013, 08:01 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
I'm not even going to read the stuff posted in this thread, I'm just going to say this.....

This country was founded on the idea that we as citizens, should have the right to have our own arms so that we can Hunt for food, Hunt for profession, to defend ourselves against intruders both foreign and domestic, and to protect ourselves as a whole from anyone or anything we deem threatening.

At no point is it smart, logical, or wise to remove that liberty from the people. There isn't a single argument that will ever come up in the history of man kind that will definitely prove one way or the other that Guns should not be owned by the people with a justifiable reason.

More people are killed by more commonplace means than guns yearly. More people are killed by blunt weapons than guns yearly. More people are killed by cars and/or drunk driving than weapons yearly.

That being said.

There has never been a time in the world where an innocent bystander was saved from Rape, Murder, Robbery, or otherwise, due to a drunk driver.

There are by and large, more accounts of armed citizens "doing good" for others, than there are for armed citizens committing a "massacre".

After all, this is what the country is up in arms about. Not a single **** is given if one bad guy kills another bad guy with a gun. Doesn't even make the news. But some sick **** who happens to steal guns from someone else goes and kills a whole bunch of children, and the first thing we want to argue about is whether or not citizens should be allowed to own a firearm?

Talk about jumping to irrational solutions here.

Perhaps maybe we should be more strict in mental evaluations of the generalized population so that we can do more studies, more research on mental illness and start finding ways to help the sick and disenfranchised.

Did that ever ring a bell with anyone? Noooooooooo

Talking heads on TV drive the sheep of America to fear "Semi-automatic Assault Rifles", when they cannot even tell me what makes a gun semi-automatic, how it works, and how we define an "assault rifle".
This doesn't really address the OP.

Far as I know, nobody serious is advocating a repeal of the 2nd amendment. It's astonishing to me any time you make any sort of gun control argument, someone will pop up like clockwork to defend nonexistent proposals to repeal the 2nd amendment.

For the record, I would disagree with your post, as irrelevent as it is to the thread as it is, on two scores:

1. The United States actually has a pretty good record on mental health, compared to most other countries in the western world. That doesn't mean it can't stand to be improved, but let's not pretend like this is some neglected part of public policy.

2. To regard the US's rate of gun violence as low, simply because it kills fewer people than car accidents, is misguided. Our rate of gun violence is ridiculously high, something like 25 x's worse than the rest of the West. That's criminal.

That's not to say some of the point you made weren't valid, but they were mostly in defense against a repeal against the 2nd amendment, which again, nobody that I've read on this forum has suggested at any time.
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