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Old 01-04-2013, 10:53 AM   #78
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Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
The OP argued that it's hollow to argue that the 2nd amendment is needed to protect the US from tyranny while simultaneously cheering on deeper intrusions into several other amendments.

You ignored that point, and just decided to start arguing that we shouldn't repeal the 2nd.

Because the OP quite hollowly suggested that people are all for the cheering of deeper intrusions of several other amendments while protecting the 2nd. That isn't true, that is a broad generalization. You cannot make a broad generalization of these issues.

Dead wrong. Egypt overthrew a dictator without firing a bullet. A country of 80 million people.

Press, speech, assembly, free exercise, establishment, habeus corpus, the civil rights amendments, cruel and unusual, due process, right to privacy, etc... all of these defang tyranny.


Egypt is not the United States of America. They do not have the same rights, the same policies, the same amendments, the same doctrines as we do. Therefore, what they do, has little to do with us in this justification.

1st amendment, actually.

You're being literal instead of practical. Of all amendments, name me the SOLE amendment that protects all other amendments.

Article 1, Section 8, actually.

Literal again.

While I agree that every nation is its own unique snowflake, that doesn't mean other countries cannot inform our policies. That's crazy talk.

"We don't have the same laws, therefore you can't compare different countries." Just a backwards way of thinking -- the different laws should directly show us the benefits of some countries' policies over others.

Now that right there is crazy talk and backwards thinking. Do you honestly believe for two seconds that if something works in say, Africa, that it will work here? No, hell no.

Are you kidding me?

We have almost those exact same worries today, in some cases they're worse.
We have almost those exact same worries today?

I must have missed the part where people could be hanged in this nation for their religious beliefs, cast away and deported because they do not "fit in" or because they are of another religion or profession.

I must have missed the part where there was an entire nation trying to oppress us and our freedoms, having been born of that nation and those rights.
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