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Old 01-05-2013, 09:26 PM   #24
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I totally support this guy's initiative to look at statistics without bias.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...tables/table-1

Politicians are promoting a 'fear agenda': He offers this claim with no proof. I am not totally refusing to believe that politicians tend to do this, but he needs to show his work. Also, he needs to consider that it's the result of being filtered through the media, who are masters at promoting fear agendas.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...group_2011.xls

Big cities have much higher violent crime and murder rates: Totally correct. No argument there.

Whenever the above statement is brought up, the response is to redirect to international comparisons: Another groundless assertion, but not important in the grand scheme. I think he puts it in here mostly as a transition to . . .

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publica...12?view=Binary

Comparing us to Britain, which he totally flubs, and for the same reason (or one of the reasons) why I am not a fan of comparing two nations - different nations measure in different ways. If you look on page 16 of the same document he uses, you'll see that the British way of measuring "Violence against the person" is broken down into many classifications, including but not limited to deaths by drunk driving (4.4-4.6), causing harm through negligence (8F), making threats (3B), possession (10A-D), harassment (8L), something called "public fear, alarm, or distress" (9A), and giving someone a shove (105A). By including all of these, it makes Britain's "violent crime" numbers skyrocket, in comparison.

He does, to his credit, note Britain's murder rate of 1.3, which is lower than the United States's. In fact, it is a lot lower - about one third the rate.

His next line is accusing others of picking and choosing stats that meet their agenda. Ironic, that - and I'm only about halfway through his video.
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