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Old 01-06-2013, 06:12 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by Exoter175 View Post
I want to see the breakdown of "Rifle" and "Handgun".

A. I bet a large portion of the murder by rifle incidents, actually come up as murders by rounds larger than 5.56MM an rarely, if any, 7.62x39 or 7.62x51.

I'd be the house on "murder by rifle" being bolt action hunting rifles.

On top of that, I want to see the breakdown further into "Semi-automatics" and further into "assault rifle" or "Battle Rifle" configurations. Lets get to the real truth here.

B. In the realm of "murder by handgun", I want to know what all that encompasses, is this strictly civilian based? Or are we including the police shooting to kill because they are drawn on or have to put a man down because he represents a threat. For this, I want to see the numbers, like rifles, broken down further.

9MM, .40S&W, and .45ACP

Anything outside of those 3 rounds isn't likely to be an issue in these "ban all guns" talk. The 9mm is the most prevalent round for on and off duty police, followed by the .40S&W for the same off/on duty police, adding in most sheriffs and troopers, and the .45 ACP more along the lines of off duty personal firearm troops.

Also, I want clarification on "murder". Are we talking strictly one man died at the hand of another man's shot placement, or are we talking pre-meditated murder, and various degrees of murder.

If all "Department" related incidents are included here, then I stand to believe that there is significantly less "handgun" related deaths than being told here.

I'm not trying to place impact upon the numbers, I just want them broken down and clarified more, especially whether these are 100% civilian numbers, if LE/Mil is added in, or if LE/Mil off duty is added in, etc.



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I agree that it would be nice if things were broken down into more subsets but they are not.

As far as the type of homicide I think the FBI stats in the link tell you how they were classified, they left out Justifiable Homicide and Suicide and just basically concentrated on Murders without going back to correct the data due to outcomes of trials. If I get time later I will go back and post the the definition they used.
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