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Old 01-14-2013, 05:27 PM   #33
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Maybe because they realize with a gun in the house a woman is more likely to be killed by her partner than a stranger. And her child is more likely to be killed as well.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0427101532.htm

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full
That study doesn't seem very useful though.

It includes nuggets like this:

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Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method
But what are we supposed to do with that information? That's like saying "Most vehicle accidents happen within 10 miles of your home." Yes, that's true. You should move, and perhaps your odds of not getting in a vehicle accident will improve. Right?

But think about the statement. It doesn't say that a suicide would be prevented by not having a gun in the house. It just says that when a gun is available, the odds are higher that it would be a gun that's used as opposed to pills or hanging. It says nothing to the safety of the actual weapon. Only that when a suicidal person has choices available, the odds are higher they will choose the most effective method available. Shocker. And why are they even including suicide anyway?

Also, there's this:

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"There is compelling evidence that a gun in the home is a risk factor for intimidation and for killing women in their homes, and it appears that a gun in the home may more likely be used to threaten intimates than to protect against intruders," wrote Hemenway.
They include the potential for intimidation to support their results. So they're essentially saying it's easier to scare someone when you have a gun, therefore guns are bad and makes a home less safe. Which conveniently, makes any home with a gun a "Greater risk".

They even admit to these problems in the actual study:

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Although these studies are useful in demonstrating an association between access to firearms and rates of homicide and suicide at the aggregate level, it is not possible with this methodology to adequately assess whether access to a gun increases the risk of a violent death at the individual level.
You think? Hmmm.
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