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Old 01-19-2013, 08:44 PM   #289
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 View Post
Why do I not have a right to serve whoever I want in my establishment? Why do I have to serve black or gay people? Why can't I have cows on my property? why can't I build up as high as I want? Why can I put a giant neon sign on the top of my house that says "vaginal blood fart"?

Why are none of these fundamental in inalienable rights, but allowing smoking in my bar is somehow radically philosophically different? You're not really attempting to make any case as to why this "right" is so much different than every other zoning and property law out there on the books. You're just waving your hands a lot about bullies and majority rule. It's obvious you're very emotionally invested in this issue for some reason.

I get the concept you're making about majority rule, believe me I really do. And there have been times in history majority rule has done some very bad things. But I do not believe that this is remotely one of those cases. There are very real potential health effects, and a very very real gigantic nuisance effect to smoking in bars.
because those are PROTECTED classes. How do you not get this? You DO have the right to not server bald people or whatever.. as long as they aren't protected.

No, I have clearly laid out why it isn't the same as most zoning laws( some zoning laws are crazy and shouldn't be on the books... so those are the same). YOU have yet to address my analogy. Are you or are you not ok with a law prohibiting a bar from allowing patrons to wear Chiefs gear?

As for the health issue. That has been addressed. ETS doesn't violate OSHA standards.

As for the nuisance... the same could be said from the other side.

So far, your ONLY justification is mob rule.
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