Originally Posted by DeezNutz
They haven't had competent, complete coaching since the Marty years, but there were parts of Grandpa's teams that could physically beat the shit out of just about anyone in the league--such beautiful offensive line play during those years...
That was still a finesse line. Put them in 3rd and short late in a game and they'd try to run a sweep or misdirection. Even with those hall of famers they had a hard time just pushing somebody off the line (although a lot of that was the center, Wiegmann was always 50 pounds lighter than the guy in his face). Which is not something I have any problem with at all - I far prefer that to Martyocre-style football. But it's a part of the character of the team for the last 15 years as a whole: they don't usually just line up and physically beat someone. It happens from time-to-time (we all remember the Ravens game where Ray was crying his eyes out because of the way Shields was pounding him) but not often.
Anyway, I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm only saying I think you're devaluing part of the equation. There's a lot of things wrong here, and I think there's an intangible problem to go along with the talent and coaching. And maybe it's in no small part a product of that, but it's there nonetheless.