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Old 01-24-2013, 03:02 PM   #68
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There is a lot of info in one of the giant Benghazi threads. SecDef made that claim (by his words) on the advice of his direct subordinate, but his subordinate did not back him up on that. Some of the confusion arises because there are two issues with support. There was a discussion about whether the local CIA called for support from the State Dept, and whether that request was denied. There is another issue about whether State worked with Defense to coordinate support, and the discussion between State and Defense about the logistics of that support from Defense. From going over the reports, my opinion is that State was badly undermanned, outgunned and unprepared for the situation. There were multiple Defense assets readily available. One of the issues surrounding the lack of reaction by Defense is the adamant viewpoint expressed by State that this was a mob protest spurred on by a derogatory YouTube video rather than a continually escalating terrorist operation. This lie (it was admitted by State as an intentional lie) was used to downplay the State's responsibility to express the potentially dangerous nature of the situation, and to request aid from Defense both prior to and during the incident.

I paid somewhat more attention to the Rice statements and the causes of the riots than the ability to get better assets in place in a timely fashion to save lives. Don't think State has admitted it was an intentional lie, but rather a mistake based on insufficient information at the time. Maybe the story has changed there and I missed it, but I doubt it. I don't think any government official has ever admitted to lying anytime anywhere in the world, ever, so I doubt this would happen (whether it was a lie or not).

I remain confused as to what anyone thinks the Administration would get out of intentionally lying about the cause.

This seems to be more of a typical too many people involved, poor communications **** up than anything else. In other words, typical government mistakes which, unfortunately, can and do happen and can and do cost people their lives in worst case scenarios.

Obviously the Administration gets no credit, and in fact loses points on this for fumbling the whole thing, but the vitriolic outrage doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, I admit. Then again, it's probably just the typical vitriolic outrage over continuing to breathe the same air...
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