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Old 02-03-2013, 09:49 AM   #27
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There are always violent nutjob extremists on all sides. Even the US has it's own violent nutjob extremists. But all sides don't have equal violent nutjob extremists. We should stop saying things like "extremists on both sides" when we talk about the Israeli/palestinian problem. The extremists on the palestinian side are by far the worse problem here and that needs to be pointed out with clarity, IMO.

Other than that, I tend agree with most of your takes on this subject.
I know in American politics there is always discussions about equivalency. But, with extermism there can be equivalency even though the numbers on one side is greater than the other side. It only takes a few to throw off the path of many.

I know most of you don't know shit about the ultra orthodox Jews. I lived with them in Jerusalem for a week as part of a program to educate Americans on what it is they believe and how they live their lives. So let me share some insight.....

Yes, there numbers are small, maybe 3%-5% of the Israeli population. They are very deeply religious and spiritual people. They believe that the Jewish temple needs to be rebuilt on the site of the dome of the rock before the messiah appears and the rapture occurs. It has to happen for them to live in heaven. Many conservative Christians in the U.S. also believe and support the Hasidim because of this shared belief that the Jewish temple must be rebuilt on the same site for the rapture and Jesus Christ's return.

They are committed to their beliefs in a way that few among us can comprehend. If you truly believe that an action such as blowing up the Muslim mosque on the temple mount will hasten the rapture, why would you not do it? They are committed to their beliefs in a way that few among us can comprehend. So why haven't they already done that?

Most rabbinical scholars have said that act would result in the death of millions of Jews and that can;t be allowed to happen.

Here's the danger, a break off sect that thinks the others are not conservative enough decides that deaths here in the physical is nothing compared to everlasting life in heaven.
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.

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