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Old 02-11-2013, 12:24 PM   #17
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Almost all of this is untrue.

1. Executive orders aren't legislation at all.

2. Some executive orders get reversed by the next new president (from the opposing party), but some last for a long time, e.g. the executive order against assassinations issued by Ronald Reagan lasted through 3 presidents until it was amended by GWBush. I don't have any statistics available, but I bet most of them are not reversed by the next guy.

3. A small minority of executive orders are challenged all the way to the SCOTUS. A really, really small minority.
Forget I used the word "legislation". Use any word that you would like for a executive order. When you focus on one word, or the definition of a word, your argument is on thin ice.

They are temporary unless the incoming President agrees with the executive order. The Reagan example is a perfect example. You think Clinton didn't know of its existence? By his not canceling the executive order, he approved of the executive order.

There are lawsuits agaisnt everything the government does, I'm skeptical that there are few lawsuits against executive orders.
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If it's effective, who are you, me, or anybody else to call it abuse? I worked with a guy back in Moberly who would shove a finger up his son's ass each time he had anything worse than a C on his report card. If he came home with 2 D's and an F, that's 3 fingers (and this was a big dude). Does that sound hideous and disgusting? Absolutely. Did the kid ever get anything worse than a C after this rule was implemented? Not a chance.

I'm not saying it's morally right or wrong, but does it make the child because of it? Think about that for a second.
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