Originally Posted by Prison Bitch
Excellent argument. Clearly this is the key thing here, not facts - but where "Duncan Idaho" has lived.
Yes it is.
I'm telling you to use your brain and think about the likelihood that a major university with 43,000 undergrads - 2 hours away from a city of 3M people - would have only 4K alums there. Use your head Duncan.
What "facts" would you bring to the table to suggest Illinois' footprint in St. Louis is anywhere close to Mizzou's in Kansas City? You say "Yes it is" as if you have them. Please produce.
They don't get the same coverage in the local sports page.
They don't get the same play on sports talk radio (even when Illinois hoops was riding the coattails of Bill Self's recruiting class, they didn't)
They don't see huge enrollment numbers from the St. Louis area.
And I'm telling you to use your brain and look at the differences in "feeder" options for Illinois grads.
Missouri's biggest chunk of student population comes from the St. Louis area, and that city is the primary post-grad destination of most graduates.
Illinois gets a tiny chunk of its student population from St. Louis. It's primary destinations post-grad are Chicago, New York, DC, and surprisingly, San Francisco. (BTW, U of I has about 30k undergrads - Mizzou has about 27k). Milwaukee, Madison, Indianapolis and Peoria all get big chunks of Illinois grads, too. Indy and Peoria are closer to U of I. Madison and Milwaukee slightly farther than St. Louis but not significantly.
Hilariously stupid is right.