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Old 02-21-2013, 02:00 PM   #136
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What radical equality have we tried before?
The radical equality of communism has been tried all over the world.

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A progressive tax rate does not hamper someone wanting to make more money because, gasp, even after tax the individual is still making more money. If you make 50,000 dollars one year and a million the next, even though you pay a high tax rate a portion of that income(i'm not sure on the cut offs) you still net a lot more money than the guy who only made fifty thousand.

Are you really making a toddlers argument that if you can't have all you don't want any?

Would you think its fair if you paid the exact same entrance fee for a service as everyone else, but some people benefit more, others less?
Or, is it fair if a person benefits the most from a service, their rate of pay should be proportional to that?
It's not at all clear to me that wealthy people benefit more from public resources.

And no, I'm not making a toddler's argument. Am I making an argument to a toddler?

If we have two people who each make $50k and pay the same taxes. Now let's say they both want to get a second job that pays $30k. One of them is going to pay 25% on that $30k and the other is going to pay 30% on that $30k because they live in a jurisdiction that has a more progressive tax system.

After taxes, the first person has $22,500 in his pocket from his second job. The second person only has $21,000 in his pocket. Which guy is going to find it harder to move up the social ladder?

Or in terms of fairness, compare two people who have the exact same income over a two year period. One of them earns it in two equal portions (let's say $50k per year) and the other goes from famine to feast because he's a salesman subject to the health of the economy ($20k in year 1 and $80k in year 2). If you have a two rate tax code that includes a 10% rate for income up to $60k and 25% beyond that, the first person ends up with $90k in his pocket and the second person ends up with only $87k for the sin of not having a steady income. Is that what you call fair?
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